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BANKSY – YES, BUT IS IT ART ?!!

In my last post, I mentioned that we had a sighting of the famous, stencil-graffiti artwork, the " Chalk Farm Maid" ( or "Sweeping it Under the Carpet" as it’s known in some circles ) by that most infamous guerrilla artist, Banksy, whilst up in Primrose Hill, at Chalk Farm Tube Station...

Here she is, as we saw her last weekend:-

This was my first ever sighting of a genuine Banksy piece, out in the wilds of London, even though I have lived here for nigh on 30 years, and the reason for that is that I was largely unaware of the exact locations of these amazing pieces of illegal Urban Art...and living for the most part in South and West areas of London, where he doesn’t ever seem to venture, I have never seen one in real life...

Having seen the "Chalk Farm Maid", I decided to find out a little more about her, and other works by the enigmatic, and understandably shy, retiring type who created her...


Firstly, I discovered that this piece of wall art on the back of the Roundhouse, in Camden, has had a very chequered history, in her short life, for she is only a few years old, and already she has been talked about, photographed, tagged, added to, erased, vandalised and painted over at least once, in her short life...

She appeared in 2006, and was first written about, in the Bono-edited edition of the Independent newspaper, where it was claimed by that she was commissioned by that newspaper, which was later on denied very quickly, for fear of legal repercussions...

"Banksy takes to streets to highlight Aids crisis

By Arifa Akbar

The "guerrilla" graffiti artist Banksy has spray-painted a striking, large-scale image entitled "Sweeping It Under The Carpet" on a wall in Chalk Farm, north London.

Commissioned by The Independent, the work can be seen as a metaphor for the West's reluctance to tackle issues such as Aids in Africa.

Banksy said yesterday that the commissioned piece was also about the democratisation of subjects in works of art.

"In the bad old days, it was only popes and princes who had the money to pay for their portraits to be painted," he said.

"This is a portrait of a maid called Leanne who cleaned my room in a Los Angeles motel. She was quite a feisty lady."

By the time a few months had gone by, the wall was completely covered in added graffiti of the worst kind, the kind that makes you really despair...this kind of graffiti is the wrong kind, as it is ugly, doesn’t say anything, and certainly doesn’t add anything other than scrawl to an otherwise clean surface, and covers over and vandalises a witty and well-executed piece of street-art that is already there...


By the 6th of July, she had a companion on her wall at the back of the Roundhouse, a full-size stencil of Sid Vicious, added by the graffiti artist Jeff Aerosol, here;-

Later on, he was vandalised, and had his head partially erased, here :-


Later on, the wall had been cleaned, of all the scrawly graffiti, and just had the maid sweeping everything under her carpet, as she had always done...all the local residents like her so much that even though she is essentially an illegal piece of vandalism, she is allowed to stay because she brightens everyone day up...which just goes to prove that local Councils in London can be understanding and listen to what the people actually want !!

However, they can be a bit over-zealous in their cleaning operations, because around the 31st January, 2008, someone added a fine looking mantelpiece to the wall, only to have it removed a few days later by the Council due to health & safety concerns...even though it was only a few inches thick, and wouldn’t really trip anyone up !!

 
Then, disaster struck...on the night of Friday 10th of February this year, there was a crisis at the wall...whilst everyone was being distracted by the fire in the Hawley Arms pub, someone was actually painting over the maid...

This work and a couple of other works around in other parts of London have been vandalised in the same way, with the same tag - "All the best – Vida"

From the Camden New Journal, an article by Simon Wroe :-

 "First the mantelpiece, then the maid – outcry as iconic Chalk Farm street art is obliterated
WHILE the Hawley Arms and the Lock Market burned in the fire on Saturday night, away from the spectators another Camden icon was being destroyed.
Banksy’s stencilled maid – long protected by both Camden Council and the Roundhouse, on whose wall she resides – was defaced beyond recognition by a rogue graffiti artist. It is thought to be beyond saving.
The whitewash attack in Regent’s Park Road was made under cover of darkness, with a sarcastic calling card wishing “All the Best – Vida” left spray-painted at the scene.
The actions of the mysterious “Vida” fly in the face of an unspoken law practised by council officials, which has seen Banksy’s street art preserved, even retouched, while all other artistic offerings on the same wall – the most recent a life-sized wooden mantelpiece – are swiftly removed.
Roundhouse chief executive Marcus Davey decried the destruction of a “visual arts icon”.
He said: “I not only love the work but I have seen a great many people come from far and wide to be photographed with her. I don’t know how much money it could have been worth but it was very special to the Roundhouse and it is a shame that whoever did this just covered it up with white paint rather than make some kind of credible artistic statement.”
Mr Davey’s disappointment was echoed by others. Carolyn Broadribb, a bartender at The Enterprise Pub opposite the Banksy site, said: “You don’t get proper graffiti in Camden apart from Banksy. There’s no thought put into most of it. The people who would do this are just stupid – they don’t know why Banksy is important. Let’s hope Banksy will come back and do it again.”
Jasper Harvey, 16, had come from Southend to go shopping and see the artwork.
He said: “People say it’s graffiti but it’s art. The maid was a landmark and looked much better than what’s here now.”
Belsize Park resident Daniel Joshua, who passes the maid on his way to work every day, said: “I did a double-take – it’s a local legend. It’s jealousy.”
It is not the first time the chambermaid has come under attack. Last year her face was scratched by vandals but later repaired, allegedly by Banksy himself.
It pales in comparison to the most recent attack though: a sorry-looking pair of shoes is now all that remains of the original art work by one of the UK’s most well-known artists, which would have been worth hundreds of thousands of pounds in the current Banksy-obsessed art market.
But fellow street artist Jef Aerosol, whose work also adorns the walls of Camden, believes the furore over Banksy is misguided.
He said: “Street art shouldn’t be forever. Painting on the walls is like a gift to the people, it shouldn’t have a value.
“Of course it’s dispiriting if you come the following day and it’s gone but don’t work on the street if you want your work to last forever.”


After the attack, Camden City Council must have had a really good go at restoring her, because we came along a few weeks later, and photographed her pretty much as she was before, and even though she is looking a little battered, and her face isn’t as clear as it was, at least she is still here !!

However, not everyone is always overjoyed to receive his attentions on their walls...

Another "Maid" was painted on the side of the White Cube Art Gallery, in Hoxton Square:-


She was painted out very quickly, ironically by the gallery itself – bet they’re kicking themselves now !!

You see, this is how well loved the works by Banksy are, here in London...here are two very recent paintings, which have appeared this year, both of which have been received with huge amounts of publicity in the press, and excitement on the part of the people whose buildings have been added to in this way !!

Firstly, here is the "Wallflower", in Pollard Street, near the Bethnal Green Working Men’s Club, in Hackney...typical of Banksy’s work, it utilises the yellow lines that are already there, and turns them into something else entirely...


A few days later, it appears that someone else has already augmented this painting, by turning the trainers into yellow Puma brand...


This particular painting was photographed whilst in progress, by a passer-by, on her mobile phone, as her suspicions were aroused by the enormous sheeting that had been erected around the site, whilst work was in progress...

 

For the first time it seems that Banksy has been caught in the act, but the photo isn’t clear enough to actually identify him, which surely must make him breathe a sigh of relief...and his spokesperson will neither confirm nor deny...

 

Later on the same month, this painting appeared on the side of a pharmacy, in Essex Road, Islington, North London...also utilising something that is already there, in this case, the fire alarm on the side of the building, and understandably, the owner of the pharmacy is ecstatic about this addition to his shop...


"I just walked into the shop on Monday and, lo and behold, there it was," he told the London Paper.

"I am absolutely delighted - I think it's just fantastic. I've heard how much these works can go for. We would consider selling the wall, but not the shop. I think anyone who would want to erase it is crazy. It's a piece of art."


This painting has probably increased the value of his shop by about £200,000 if you go by current Banksy values of the works that have been auctioned on E-bay...mind you, you would have to get it off the wall first...

That is exactly what has happened to this piece, entitled Old Skool:-


Recently, this was the end result of all the corrugated hoarding that mysteriously appeared around this piece for about six weeks :-



Although there was a fair amount os Internet speculation about what was happening under the hoardings, the wall painting was actually legitimately sold, by the owner of the wall, to an anonymous German Collector for £1000, who then had to pay £30,000 to have it removed very carefully and re-erected in his art gallery in Knightbridge, where it sold for £300,000...

Amazing !!!

SO WHO IS BANKSY ?

There have been so many attempts to unmask this secretive Guerrilla Artist, and none of them have ever been confirmed...the mobile phone picture of him at work is the most recent picture, but isn’t clear enough to identify him successfully...there have also been these two photos, taken at different times, but neither have ever been confirmed:


Banksy isn't just a graffiti artist, he is also getting very famous for his Art Pranks too...the best one, in my opinion, is when he planted one of his own artworks in a Display at the British Museum, alongside a fake label that matched the BM’s own, within the Exhibition, and it wasn’t discovered for three days !!!


Stone-age man with shopping trolley !!

Here’s the relevant news article from the London Evening Standard:-

Aisle be! Shopping trolley on rock fools art experts

By Patrick Sawer, Evening Standard Last updated at 00:00am on 19.05.05

It may have been an obvious hoax - a "cave painting" of a primitive man pushing a supermarket trolley - but it slipped past the expert eyes of the British Museum.

In his latest coup, guerrilla artist Banksy left the painting, on a 10in by 6in piece of rock from Peckham, in the museum's gallery of artefacts from Roman Britain.

It was only when he went on to write about it on his website - offering readers a prize if they photographed themselves next to it - that museum staff finally caught on.

The museum admits it has no idea how long the stone was on display, but is hoping the incident attracts new visitors.

Banksy, who has exhibited in a similar vein at Tate Britain, placed the rock painting in gallery 49, alongside a limestone statue and a 1st Century tombstone found in Tower Hill.

He placed a caption alongside it, stating: "This finely preserved example of primitive art dates from the Post-Catatonic era and is thought to depict early man venturing towards the out-of-town hunting grounds."

The museum's communications director Hannah Boulton said: "We are not treating this seriously at all.

Banksy's piece, she added "was rather well installed, but it did no damage".

Simply marvellous – this amuses me greatly !!!

He has also managed to get his works into the Metropolitan Museum of Art, in New York, and London’s Natural History Museum in recent years..

Banksy is popularly thought to have come from Bristol, and there are certainly many works of his in evidence there...

This is the most recent addition to Bristol landscape, painted, in Park Street, on the side of the Relate Marriage Guidance Centre...entitled "Caught in the Act", it says a whole lot about his anarchic sense of humour...

There are many, many Banksy pieces all over London, Bristol, and a few other places around the World – New York and L.A. both have their share of Banksy pieces, and even Melbourne has one piece which has survived because he is not well known there at the time, and no-one knows what it is, or who it’s by...

He went off to Israel, when the highly illegal wall was being built around the Palestinian Territories a few years ago, and left nine calling cards, all along the length of this structure...

Here are a few of them:-



So many paintings by Banksy have been painted over, and lost, by over-zealous anti-graffiti squads from various Councils around London, but now, they are starting to be preserved, as these Councils are getting to realise just how valuable they are in the current Art market...here a few of the many paintings that are nowhere to be seen these days...

The Cash Machine Grab was painted in May last year, in two places, Roseberry Avenue, Clerkenwell, which has suffered the same fate as the Chalk Farm Maid, being vandalised in the same way:-

 

The other version, in Exmouth Market, Finsbury has now been buffed off, in other words removed by the Council...for shame !!

Other Banksy works around London include the "TV Out the Window" in Old Street, City of London, which is still there:-
 

 
"Graffiti Removal" which has been buffed:-

A whole series of Rat stencils, including my favourite, " Red Carpet Rat-hole", which used to grace the Southwark Bridge underpass, and is, sadly, no longer there:

"Toxic rat" also buffed:-

 

And the "Roller-painting Rat", also gone, I believe:-

 


There is also this beautiful example of "Super-rat Flip":-


It's just all marvellously witty stuff, isn't it ?!!

Over in America, Banksy has also been leaving his calling cards lying around...this wonderful example of his humour at its best appeared on a wall, in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, New York...this one goes around the corner of the building, so you see the girl skipping first, and then you see the boy with his hand on the electric switch...

 

This "Watering-can Girl" appeared at a gas-station in L.A....


This wonderful example was painted over a previously buffed piece of Banksy art, depicting one of his rats, which you can vaguely see underneath the paint-job...go Banksy !!


This was somewhere in the US, but I haven’t been able to find out where it is !!

BUT IS IT ART ?!!

Well, my own feelings on this matter are that it seems to be Human Nature to decorate things with your own signature, as a way of leaving your own mark on things, and things have been this way ever since ancient Roman tims...there has always been graffiti !!

However, it seems to me that there is Good graffiti and Bad graffiti, and even though most graffiti artists and crews will whinge to death about there being one rule for Banksy and one rule for the rest, the fact is that there really are two kinds of Graffiti...so deal with it !!
Probably like most of you, I am sick to death of seeing the Bad graffiti, like this :-


Ugly, scrawl that everyone hates...and is a scourge on walls all over the World !! I hate it, you hate it everyone hates it, except the moronic graffiti crews who leave it...

However, there is also the Good Graffiti, meaning stuff like this:-



A marvellous piece of trompe d'oeuil painting, of the highly illegal kind...witty and probably still there !!

Banksy’s work is probably the best example of this kind, and the simple reason that Banksy’s work is being kept, renovated, repainted, and renewed, bought and sold and generally valued for what it is, is because it consists of witty, clever, often politically anarchical, statements on how he sees the World, and he is loved by the General Public for it...



This is what Banksy, himself, thinks about all the high prices people are paying out for his works, at Art Auctions and on E-bay, almost none of which comes back to him, it has to be said !!

In fact the only people who appear to really hate Banksy are other graffiti artists, who are either jealous of his popularity, and the prices his works are now commanding, or who simply don’t get it !! All they care about is why Banksy’s works get the praise and theirs don’t...

As soon as they come up with work as good as this, they will be as loved by the Public as Banksy is...and maybe reap the same rewards !! Graffiti can be excellent, but can we please have more of the good kind and just a little less of the useless stuff that spoils everything, everywhere !!!

Besides which, Banksy has had his share of works buffed out...all over London, there are sites which once carried a Banksy work, which have now been cleaned...several Councils are absolutely unrepentant about cleaning anything by Banksy, or anyone else, that appears illegally on any of their walls, seeing him as just another illegal graffiti artist, who is defacing their property....

So what do you all think ?

Is Banksy the great artist that the current Art Market seems to think he is ?

Or is he just another Graffiti Artist, like any other, but who has simply got lucky?...

 




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[info]janejanejane
2008-04-13 12:12 pm UTC (link)
This is really interesting and I for one think that Banksy's work should be left undisturbed for posterity. It certainly is modern art and even though it's on a wall and temporary it's as good if not better than some of the stuff that makes it into Tate Modern! He shows real talent and a great sense of humour as well as a political awareness. Long may he prosper!

The others like Vida who have simply defaced his work are merely jealous of Banksy's talent.

Thanks for this. I'd not heard of Banksy before. Would that all the graffiti in our cities could be as artistic!

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 12:33 pm UTC (link)
Jane,
I suspect that most of the comments that I get for this piece, will be along the same lines as yours...Banksy is immensely popular, especially around London and Bristol - the Park St. artwork of the naked man hanging out of the window, for instance, was put to a Public vote, as to whether they wanted it left, or removed as illegal graffiti, and there was a 97% vote to leave it in situ, because people love it so much...so they have !!

Says it all really...

Whilst you were reading this piece and writing your comment, I was getting busy editing it, as LJ appeared to leave great chunks of it out, or in the wrong order, while it was posting...so you may want to go back and re-read, in case you missed some of it !!

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[info]janejanejane
2008-04-13 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, just had another look. Most of it I had already seen apart from the pic of the caveman with trolley, for some reason.

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[info]ms_banazira
2008-04-13 12:52 pm UTC (link)
I stumbled on Banksy's website a few months ago, and was absolutely charmed! But IMVHO, anyone who "sells" one is stealing from the people, and ought to donate at least some of their ill-gotten profit to a charity of their choice.

My urban-dweling, art student daughter and I are big fans of "good" graffiti; not the ugly "tags", but the really artful stuff.

My favorite grafitti story is about a gentleman in New York City who wrote his life story in installments deep inside subway tunnels where the public is not allowed. The cops pursued him for years, mystified by his seeming ability to strike anywhere in those dark subteranean vaults. When they finally caught him the mystery was solved: he undertook his labors clad in a stolen MTA uniform!

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Honey,
Amazing !! What an extraordinary story ...

I agree about people who sell this stuff off their own walls, - that isn't in the spirit in which it is created in the first place is it ?!! This stuff is meant to be for the General Public to enjoy, and it always amazes me when I hear of some star or other ( Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, George Michael, etc, etc, ) paying out millions for bits of his work, which previously had adorned the wall of some car park or other !! However this is a prime example of those mysterious Market Forces at work...
He is laughing at everyone who pays out, whilst at the same time losing that money for himself...he can't declare himself to be a legitimate artist, if he wants to carry on with all the illegal stuff, and that is what he really seems to enjoy doing, even though he could be mega-rich by now...

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[info]jellybean_sky
2008-04-13 01:21 pm UTC (link)
I think bansky's work is very witty and creative.. its almost like a statement of 21st century lifestyle. I always wonder what people in a hundred years time will look back upon to understand our culture, and this work is probably one of the best ways of exposing it, free of propaganda.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 08:14 pm UTC (link)
Jellybean,
"I always wonder what people in a hundred years time will look back upon to understand our culture"

What an amazing thought - that someone could actually find one of these artworks still on a wall, in a thousand or so years time, ( for a hundred years isn't enough, I don't think !! ) and not find a huge blank space where the plaster once was instead...what they would make of a "Cash Machine Grab" or a load of geriatric hooligans, as in "Old Skool", I don't quite know - however it's a great thought, isn't it ?!!

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[info]sssneaking
2008-04-13 01:29 pm UTC (link)
I'll join the queue and say I think Banksy's great and almost always relevant. I think they should just be left where they are or maybe given some kind of a protective layer to protect them.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Sssneaking,

Many of these works are now being protected by perspex sheeting almost immediately as soon as they go up, by the people who own the various walls that they appear on...it's probably true to say, that if a Banksy graffiti piece appears on one of your walls, then you would probably get it insured and protect it from being stolen just as you would any other work of art, in the current climate...instead if swearing and cursing, and getting out the paint !!

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[info]mews1945
2008-04-13 01:56 pm UTC (link)
He's a true artist. He does it for love, not for money. Those who sell or buy his work are missing the point.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Mews,
"Those who sell or buy his work are missing the point."

I agree in principle, but well, I also know this much - they may not be getting the point, but they are getting very rich on it...the last piece that was taken off a wall was sold in a Knightsbridge gallery for £300,000 - it cost £31,000 to get it, but it made ten times that much, so who's the winner here...certainly not the owner of the wall, and certainly not Banksy...

I wonder what you or I would do, if we had one of these pieces appear on the side of our shop or home, given that it would probably pay the mortgage off ?!! The person who sold that "Old Skool" piece certainly didn't get rich on it, but he did get a small tidy sum, still has a wall, and has a full-size copy of the artwork to boot...

Food for thought ?...

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[info]mews1945
2008-04-13 11:04 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure you're right. It would be hard to turn down that much money. And yet . . . that wall was there for everyone to see and enjoy. Now it isn't. It makes me feel sad that it's not where he painted it any longer.

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[info]mother2012
2008-04-13 02:46 pm UTC (link)
Any literate person can hold a spray can and deface a clean wall with letters which have meaning only to themselves.

To take part of a structure and add to it's meaning with paint (Relate Marriage Guidance Centre for instance) is an example of what Art is: a visual microcosm of meaning.

Whether political statement or whimsy, each of these pieces appeals to something universally human.

Although, if *I* had done any of the same paintings, the amount of skill in the execution would probably take it out of the 'Art' category!

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 08:37 pm UTC (link)
Mother,
Yes, exactly - I agree wholeheartedly with this...the beauty of these latest pieces are that they enhance what is already there, and I don't think that they would work without the street furniture that they incorporate within them...how can you sell the "Tesco Flagpole", for instance without the fire alarm that forms the pole ?!! Or the Wallflower without the yellow lines that go across the pavement...

Maybe this is Banksy's latest form of insurance, to make sure that they don't get nicked, or sold !!

I love the cleverness of the three latest pieces, in London and Bristol - the whimsy and inherent appropriateness of the Marriage Guidance Council Offices having "Caught in the Act" painted on the side of them is just superb...
As for "Wallflower", this is just a fantastic dig at Hackney Borough Council, within whose boundaries this falls, who declared that they had a zero tolerence policy to graffiti, and would destroy anything, even if it was a Banksy - because it was still graffiti !!

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Muminbebi,
I agree - it is definitely art, and how can they destroy such brilliant work ???

However, if it appeared on your wall, how would you feel about it ? And would you be tempted to sell the artwork off the wall itself ( because you can you know - it takes time and money, but it can be done !! )

If you did and made a packet of money out of it, how would you feel about it being Art for the People to enjoy then ?..

It's good to think about these issues, because you never know when you might have a Banksy on your wall....

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[info]alyrthia
2008-04-13 05:09 pm UTC (link)
I love it!! I love public art that actually fits its space, as these obviously do. Thank you so much for posting these--I've never seen them, and now I'm in love. :)

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-13 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Alyon,
I'm so glad I've introduced you to the wonders of Our Banksy, and his wonderful works of art...for that is pretty much how the British Public regard him at the moment, with a lot of affection and respect too, for exactly the same reasons that you describe...

When all is said and done, most people would vastly prefer a humourous mural that actually makes you think, or brightens your day, to a whole load of meaningless scrawly tags all over a wall...

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[info]me_lon
2008-04-13 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Thx so much for posting this! They sure give some stress relief in hectic days arround the environment.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Me lon,
Yes, Banksy-spotting is a favourite pastime in London, if you know where to go...and it really brightens up your day when you spot one!!

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[info]artistamatta
2008-04-13 05:43 pm UTC (link)
banksy is one of my favorite artists. i got to see one of his pieces in nyc! one of my favorites is when he gets into local zoos and writes on the animals' walls "help me!" or "i'm so bored" or simply jail scratch marks, counting the days. it's good to see an artist- especially a graffiti being so aware of how to create a reaction. and no, i'm not a fan of people scribbling their names all over the place.
i guess the only thing that bothers me is that there are so many other great graffiti artists who are doing great things, such as SWOON, another pretty well known street artist. (nyc based) i don't think he's the only one who deserves great recognition. (not that he's not deserving of it.)

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 06:33 pm UTC (link)
Artistamatta,

Oh yes - this is one of his favourite pranks I especially liked the "Feed us more fish !" protest-sign in the penguin enclosure - highly amusing !!

I, like a good deal of other people in here, really do love a good visual joke - and I admire the sheer nerve of the man - see my next post for his latest painting, which appeared in London at the weekend...

I know for a fact that there are loads of graffiti artists just like Banksy, (look at Jeff Aerosol who stencilled Sid Vicious next to the Chalk Farm Maid) but the fact is that somehow, he has managed to catch the imagination of the General public, and so he is now fast becoming a legend in his own lifetime...I guess that only one person can do that, and then anyone else appears to be copying !!

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[info]artistamatta
2008-04-15 08:30 pm UTC (link)
yes, i definitely agree.

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[info]gloomy2000
2008-04-13 06:22 pm UTC (link)
i love banksy!i never knew the maid had been painted over-I walked past it today! i do think he is a graffiti artist, but a very good one indeed an that possibly gets him closer to the current popular artists around like Hirst(who i hate btw ¬¬) or Gormley.

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[info]gloomy2000
2008-04-13 06:23 pm UTC (link)
oh an i think the vida person does have a valid opinion, if they are infact defacing others graffiti due to idea that it isn't art then so be it, but it isn't their place to destroy something else that people admire.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Gloomy,
I think he is fast becoming as bankable as Hirst, however, I would take a surprise Banksy on my garden wall any time, over half a dead sheep pickled in formaldehyde !!
I mean, where's the fun in that ?!!

As for Vida, there was speculation that maybe Banksy was painting over his own work as a protest against the high prices being got by other people for his paintings on e-bay...but really, I think this Vida person is another graffiti artist who can't stand the fact that Banksy is so popular !!

Jealousy was never a pleasant thing to watch....

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[info]melyanna_65
2008-04-13 09:37 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for this long and very detailed entry, dear!!

I'm not an expert, but I absolutely love Banksy's art. I think that some good graffitis, paintings, trompe l'oeil or whatever, strategically placed, can add a touch of "magic" in the streets (while on the contrary, some bad graffiti like the one you posted only ruin the walls and are very annoying to the eye).

My favorite is the kitty and the Super-rat flip, probably because I love kitties! And the stone-age man with the trolley cracked me! Amazing!

*hugs*

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Melyanna,
Yes, I hate meaningless scrawl too, however, I must say, that one of the most interesting things about ancient sites in Italy, such as Pompeii and Ostia Antica, were the ancient examples of graffiti, which must have been just as meaningless in their day, but now have a significance all of their own...and the legitimate wall paintings were stunning pieces for the most part...especially the stuff in the brothel - most amusing !!

I liked the two pieces you mentioned too, the first because the very idea of a cat flipping a rat with a spoon is just so ludicrous...and yet, I see my cat doing things which make me wonder...
As for the second stunt,I loved this, because the British Museum, that august and knowledgeable institution, didn't notice it for three days !! But then, when they did find out, they decided to include it in their permanent collections - you have to admire a Museum with a sense of humour !!
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[info]truehobbit
2008-04-13 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that was quite an article, Wendy! :)

I hadn't heard of Banksy before. I really like his art. It's art, to my mind, because it's both imaginative and skillful. The ideas are awesome. :D

Not sure what's sadder, though, someone vandalising the pictures or the arts market turning something into a cash machine that's apparently meant to just be there (or is it? Is Banksy getting some profit from that? Otherwise, how does he manage to do his paintings all over the world? But if not, then wouldn't selling the stuff be illegal?) - and that it's only their monetary value that seems to be able to induce the authorities to leave them alone.

I think my favourites are the Maid (though what a silly article the Independent wrote on it, linking something so open to imagination to something as restrictive and unimaginative as the idea of 'what the West should do about Aids in Africa'), the yellow road line flower, the kids with the Tesco-bag flag and the shadow of the girl with the balloons.

Thanks for posting this, Wendy! :)

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 07:04 pm UTC (link)
Truehobbit,
The fact is that Bansky is very secretive - not surprisingly because his work appears on walls that don't belong to him and certainly haven't been offered to him as a canvas...however, it is fast becoming fact that his works are very sought after, and now that Hollywood stars are all anxious to get themselves a banksy for their homes - well, who knows where that may lead ?!!

He has held an exhibion, but it was over in the US where our cops couldn't get to him, and even then, he went over to set the exhibition up, and then disappeared again...I am assuming that anything sold by his agent, who has a gallery in Soho, in London, will bring him an 80% share of the price, the rest going to the gallery, I suppose...
This is not the same gallery owner who hacked that "Old Skool" piece off the wall, having paid the owner £1000, and a wall specialist £30,000 to painstakingly take it off in one piece...that was someone different - he sold that piece for £300,000 and Bansky didn't get a penny...

Also, it is interesting that you picked up on the Aids Awareness interpetation that the Independant put on his Chalk Farm Maid piece, because I found myself thinking the same thing -

What a load of toss !! - he didn't do anything of the sort...he painted the maid because he liked her, and had a good visual pun to include her into...no other reason than that !!

Anything else is just intellectual wank...

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[info]karena
2008-04-13 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Wait a minute! There's a rat a few doors down from my workplace, in Oakville. Are there followers of his in Canada?!?

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Karena,
Really ?!! How interesting...

I would love to see a photo, and then I can say better whether it is a real Banksy, or someone else copying !! If I can't tell, then there a number of websites who can...

He has travelled extensively, and so, it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that he did this himself - he does like to leave calling cards everywhere he goes...

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[info]karena
2008-04-23 01:36 pm UTC (link)
OK...Here is the photo:

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Context here.

Edited at 2008-04-23 02:03 pm UTC

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-25 05:21 am UTC (link)
Karena,
It would appear that Banksy has indeed paid Oakville a litle visit - either that or there is a very good copycat at work, because this little rat on his way to work in the City, can also be seen in the City of London, walking the other way :-



Quite a few of his stencils appear more than once, and eilther way round too...so it would appear to be a genuine Banksy - go and tell the people who own the shop, before they have it removed !!

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[info]karena
2008-04-25 05:08 pm UTC (link)
Oh, this is way too cool! XD Thanks!

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[info]luvhergurl
2008-04-14 01:53 am UTC (link)
Thanks for posting.
I for one really love this form of art!

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 07:10 pm UTC (link)
Luvhergurl,
Yes, you and just about everyone else in here - It's interesting, that I haven't had a single dissenting voice yet - isn't there anybody who hates Banksy, and all that he represents ?!!

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[info]janira11
2008-04-14 11:30 am UTC (link)
It is Art, Popular Art,no doubts.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-04-15 07:12 pm UTC (link)
Janira 11

Oh yes - it's definitely art - just illegal !!

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[info]mechtild
2008-04-27 12:36 pm UTC (link)
How did I miss this? This is brilliant stuff, Wendy! I loathe graffiti uglying up walls the way I hate having to hear other people's loud boom-boxes and car speakers pouring music I hate into the space around me. So intrusive! But I like the sound of real church bells and fog horns, yet that's intrusive to some peope. And I like Banksy's presentations, which as you point out is, strictly speaking, graffiti. So you're right, there is aesthetic involved in what gets drawn in public places, whether it's been commissioned and paid for or done for free.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-07-27 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Mechtild,
This was ages ago, but I just caught your comment today !! ( Along with the spam I have just deleted - bastards !! )

I love Banksy's wonderfully tongue-in-cheek daubings - they are often very funny, witty and clever, and always relevent to some topic or other that is current...for a while, it appeared thatthere was another Banksy artwork appearing somewhere in London, every week, and elsewhere too - another one appeared this week actually, but we don't know whether it is his or a copycat painting !!

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[info]witchcat07
2008-05-12 01:58 am UTC (link)
By definition he is certainly a graffiti artist, but what art! I loved all the pictures you shared. If we could have more graffiti like that over here I might like living in the city better.

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[info]wendylady1
2008-07-27 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Witchcat, Banksy certainly makes London a little more fun to be in, that's for sure...he has done a lot of pieces in New York and also Los Angeles and San Francisco too, I believe...

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[info]witchcat07
2008-07-27 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Cool! I live in Nashville, though. The closest we have is some paintings of wild animals on the railroad trestle near the zoo entrance, and that of course was with the city's blassing. They are pretty neat though.

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awesome!
(Anonymous)
2008-07-20 12:12 pm UTC (link)
just stumbled across his artwork/graf about an hour ago...and have been in awe of his pieces. very neat, and clever stencils. the maid one blew me away, as did the big yellow flower! spectacular. i really liked this thread, too. great job.

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Re: awesome!
[info]wendylady1
2008-07-27 06:45 pm UTC (link)
Hi anon.,
You are very welcome to my blog - even though this entry was a while ago, I still manage to see comments in old posts...

I love Banksy and his anarchic way of doing his art - I would actually hesitate to call it graffiti, although technically, it certainly is, in the sense that it is on other people's walls and unsolicited...although I believe he sometimes asks permission, most of the time his work just appears overnight, as a total surprise to the property owner !! If you click on the banksy tag at the top of this post, that will bring up all my posts concerning his work...

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